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Previously on The Hack...

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Think who edited the paper.
Think about where he sits now.

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MAX: I mean, I
know Andy Coulson.

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Him sitting next to the Prime
Minister, that's wrong in every way.

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NICK: The police have
Mulcaire's notebooks.

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If we can get them
into the public eye,

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we'll see who hired
who, how high this goes,

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who was being hacked.

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Just be safe with
yourself. Just be safe.

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It's the Daniel Morgan case.

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We've had some witnesses
finally come forward.

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PHONE RINGS

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You cannot be taking phone
calls from a protected witness.

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From today, you will have no further
contact with Gary Eaton, whatsoever.

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Max, we've got them on the rack.

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You settle, the whole thing
gets covered up again.

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You've got them on
the rack? With what?

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The Murdochs agreed to pay
Clifford more than £1 million.

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Our biggest gun was spiked.

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DAVID CAMERON: Our liberal
Conservative government

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will take Britain in a
historic new direction,

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a direction of hope and unity,

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conviction and common purpose.

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I'm delighted to be standing here
with the new Deputy Prime Minister,

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and I would like now to
invite him to speak to us

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on what I think is a remarkable
and very welcome day.

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Thank you, David.

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We've just been through
an election campaign,

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and now we have a coalition.

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Until today, we were rivals,
and now we're colleagues.

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NICK: It is unusual.
ALAN: And it'll cost you.

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All that work given to
someone else's byline.

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Finding it a little bit
hard to get my head around.

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Look.

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The BBC are playing
it on repeat.

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I've watched it 15 times, and
it was sickening the first time.

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Andy Coulson now sits at
the right-hand side of God.

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There's a direct link between
Number 10 and Murdoch.

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I don't like that whisper
chain. We need our...

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We need our own
coalition. We need allies.

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We have allies. I'm assembling
a huge team of lawyers.

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People are working together.
No, we need allies in the press.

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You don't think I've tried?
Nobody will touch it.

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Thank you. Erm...

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Well, they won't
on Fleet Street,

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but I've always thought
a lot of Glen Campbell.

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I think Panorama will bite.

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No, no, no. The BBC won't
risk a battle with Murdoch.

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But then there's Dispatches, maybe,
and internationally, Bill Keller.

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You can't think The New York
Times would want to be involved.

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Murdoch's hold on The
Wall Street Journal

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is galling to Bill.
I think he could.

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Well, I... If I've got
resources, of course, but...

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Alan, they won't share back.

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TV hacks might, but
The New York Times...

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This will always be
your story, Nick.

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No, it's bigger than that... me.

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SIGHS: I can't make friends
at school, why not a pen pal?

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I get it. Yeah.

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Yep, I get it. It's a good
idea. It's a necessary idea.

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Good.

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So, Nick Davies and The Guardian
are losing the exclusive

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but winning the war.

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Steve. STEVE: Yeah.

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GAVEL HAMMERING

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JUDGE: I'm aware that it
has taken us a few years

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to get to this point,
and many of us are eager

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to draw these pre-trial
hearings to a close.

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But, I'm afraid, a
new matter has arisen

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that requires our attention.

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Last night, an application was made
by the counsel for the defendants

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as regards a
possible irregularity

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in the conduct of
this investigation

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in relation to the prosecution
witness Mr Gary Eaton.

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In order to resolve this,

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it is my view that we must spend
some time hearing evidence directly

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from DCS David Cook and
the officers in his team,

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which will begin on Monday.

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DAVE: 'These rules
are ridiculous.'

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MORTIMER: They are tight. No
conferring with colleagues?

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I mean, I work with these
officers day in, day out.

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They don't want you
to prepare, basically.

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It's known as an ambush defence.

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And they want me to tell them
everything about Gary Eaton?

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While the suspects are
sitting right there?

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If the judge does decide to
lose Gary Eaton's evidence,

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it would be a
significant setback.

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Oh, losing Gary Eaton would
be a fucking disaster.

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So we do what the
judge tells us to.

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All you have to do is
answer the questions.

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Dave will be fine. He's
good in the spotlight.

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And while you sit in the
spotlight, boy scout behaviour.

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Day in, day out. Agreed?

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The defence could put
you under surveillance.

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They could track
your car, your phone.

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They'd love nothing more
than to catch you out.

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These men have been under
arrest for over a year.

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This is a fucking farce.

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Nothing to do with truth,
nothing to do with justice.

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We do the best we can
within the system we've got.

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CHATTER

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What do you call three Pulitzer
Prize winners sitting in a row?

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A murder? An ambush? An armada?

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Do you really call them "help"?

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This is, er, quite something.

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It's remarkable journalism,
Nick. Thank you.

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Any chance they're doing
it in America, too?

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A few suspected names.

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Nothing firm. It's all in there.

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You've no-one on record
from News Of The World? No.

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But plenty off the
record. Am I right?

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She's trying to get you to
reveal who your Mr Apollo is.

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Oh, I see, you think he's a News
International insider. Interesting.

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Erm, but, no, not sharing.

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And frankly, even if I
wanted to, he's disappeared.

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Do you have an angle?
The... You... Paper...

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Well, Bill's instincts
were, er, Royal Family,

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Murdochs, press
intrusion. In that order?

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We'll find our way.

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It's important no-one can
say that we colluded with you

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or were baby-fed just
to stand your story up.

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You're not here to
stand my story up.

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I wasn't saying that. We
further each other's stories.

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Anything new we get, we know
you're the keeper of the flame.

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We'll bring you in.

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I'd say likewise, but
I've given you all I have.

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EXHALES

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TOILET FLUSHES

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I don't know when
this started either.

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DOOR CREAKS OPEN

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CUBICLE DOOR OPENS, CLOSES

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MAN URINATING

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Erm, you might get a call
from The New York Times

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in the next few days.

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New York Times? Fancy.

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They're getting involved.
We're giving them what we have.

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Two newspapers are
better than one.

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You know, Nick, when I look at the
kids who come around for play dates,

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I instinctively know who are good at
sharing and who aren't, and you...

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Alan thinks it's a good idea.
I think it's a good idea.

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Oh, you weren't very good
at sharing at all, were you?

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I'm not done.

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They'll do their thing.

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It actually makes
it easier to pursue.

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And I was actually quite good
at football as a kid, so...

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That's what I'd have
done at your playdate.

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I'd have found a ball and kicked
it. I didn't care about toys.

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Anyway, I have an idea.

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So, Harry Evans wrote in his
memoir about a plane crash.

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I don't know Harry Evans.

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Editor of The Sunday Times, from
1967 to '81. Newspaper legend.

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Doesn't that mean he
worked for Murdoch?

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Oh, they didn't get
on. Murdoch fired him?

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Eventually. Actually, first he
promoted him, gave him editorship.

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That's not... He's the
hero in this story?

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I haven't told the story. Well,
your eyes imply he's the hero.

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The DC-10, in Paris,
passenger jet.

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There was clearly a problem with
the manufacture of the plane,

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but Harry couldn't
print. Without evidence.

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Exactly. So Harry got his
reporters to intervene.

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Linked the bereaved families

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with highly effective
lawyers in the US,

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because US courts were more
likely to order McDonnell Douglas

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to disclose internal paperwork.

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My plan is to do the same.

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Haven't we already tried
that with Max Clifford?

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No, no. Then you involve me
in your case, very kindly.

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Now I'm going to
recruit for you.

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So, they bribed Max.

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They won't be able to
stop an army of people.

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If I can get a list of the hacked
and encourage them to come forward,

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we can flood the courts.

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I can't see you as a footballer.

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Fuck off.

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Look, Andy Coulson created a
culture at the News Of The World.

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To prove he did so, we need to
get as many of his top journalists

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implicated as possible.

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Mulcaire's notes had
Clive Goodman's name

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written at the top
- it's court record.

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So if we can find the other
editors who commissioned him...

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Come on, it's time to get
nuclear, don't you think?

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The inevitable dig followed.

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I had to identify, with the
help of my furry friend,

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every celebrity, politician and
sports star they'd gone after.

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High ranking, the low ranking.
The illustrious, the audacious.

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And then I had to persuade
those people to fight.

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Like MP Tessa Jowell.

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Yes, I have been spoken
to by the police.

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All the dirt they had on your
ex-husband came from hacking.

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And ruined my
marriage, I am aware.

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I'd like to publish an article
about your experiences,

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and I'd like you to consider
pursuing it further in court.

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I have good lawyer recommendations.
But that would mean stirring it up.

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We've struggled enough.

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Please, leave it alone.

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I had proof that Charles
Clarke had been hacked.

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I told a friend who knew him
to tell him. My friend said...

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He's not willing to engage.

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With Charlotte's help, I
identified a dozen law firms

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who specialised in
representing celebrities.

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I contacted all of them.

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I wish I could tell
you their names.

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I'm getting nothing. Nothing?

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They're busy.

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They're worried about reviving
an embarrassing story.

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They can't afford
it. But mostly...

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Mostly, they're frightened.

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I've heard rumours
about Nicole Kidman.

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Hello, Charlotte.
Nice to meet you.

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A charming lawyer. How nice.

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Nicole's lawyer is John Kelly.

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Have you met John Kelly?

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No, she wasn't
warned by the police.

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And, no, she won't
be meeting with you

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or any other journalist.

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Mr Kelly, this is worth pursuing.
For Nicole, for all your clients.

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It's still a no, I'm afraid.

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A hard no.

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Her trustees say no.

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Mark Thompson came about
because two of his clients,

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one of whom was Big Brother's
Jade Goody, had been hacked.

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Jade had died of cancer.

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They're not interested
in pursuing a case.

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Perhaps I could talk to them.

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Because you're more
persuasive than me?

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I get it. You're desperate.

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There is another... someone.
I can't give you her name.

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We called her "AZP".

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She's very angry.

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They've ruined her life.
She's leaning into all this.

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I'd love to... Yeah, of
course you fucking would.

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And if she's brave
enough to talk more,

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then you'll hear more.
But until then...

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They're just all so scared.

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They are profoundly scared.

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DRAPERSON: Mr Cook, do you
accept that a number of rules

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were broken with
regard to Gary Eaton?

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DAVE: I do.

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And the issue for the
judge to decide on

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is the spirit in which
these rules were broken.

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Were they broken in bad faith,
or was it done transparently

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and in the interests of justice?

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Those are the two sides that we
are litigating at the moment.

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You understand that? Yes, I do.

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Let us begin with your
initial meeting with Mr Eaton.

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It's been suggested
that you led the witness

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during this conversation.

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I think it's important
for me to say

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that I never wanted to meet with
Mr Eaton in the first place.

250
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He insisted he would only
speak with me, so I went along.

251
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And the job is to find
out if he was valid.

252
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And to do that, you have to
ask some probing questions.

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"Give me the name
of the brothers."

254
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That's hardly a probing
question, is it, Mr Cook?

255
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He wasn't interested in any
brothers at all, was he?

256
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You gave him the brothers.

257
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I gave him the brothers.

258
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I did not give him the
name of the brothers.

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You were aware at that first
meeting of how important it was

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to preserve the
integrity of the process?

261
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And that's what I thought we
were doing. It was all recorded.

262
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And we all have the
transcripts here before us.

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But that wasn't my question.

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It was a simple question.

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Let's try another.

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Do you accept that by having direct
phone conversations with a witness,

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you were breaching the
sterile corridor system?

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Yes, I do. But I would say
that this was a particularly

269
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difficult set of circumstances.
Wasn't difficult at all.

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All you had to do was say
to this man, "I'm sorry",

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"the rules are, I'm not allowed
to have direct contact with you."

272
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"You have your own witness
protection handler."

273
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"They can sort out any
problems you may have,"

274
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"but from now on, you
must not ring me,"

275
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"and if you do, my
phone will bar you."

276
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And that is what I did
on several occasions.

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Did you ever bar Gary Eaton
from calling your phone?

278
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It's not always possible
on every type of phone.

279
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Are you saying that
it's not possible

280
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from a Metropolitan
Police phone?

281
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It's... It's a terribly
simple question.

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He changed his number. I
didn't know his number.

283
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I'd like to turn now to the
issue of your note taking.

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My Lord, between August
the 23rd... EARS RINGING

285
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...and the 16th of
September, 2006,

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not one of Mr Cook's numerous
telephone calls to Eaton

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appears on the schedule.

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Mr Cook, do you mind telling us

289
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how it is that between the 23rd of
August and the 16th of September,

290
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you managed to make so many calls
without recording any of them?

291
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From memory, the vast
majority, if not all,

292
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were to do with Mr
Eaton's welfare -

293
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his domestics, stuff like
that, nuisance stuff.

294
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But you accept, do you not,

295
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that the court has no way of knowing
what was said during these calls?

296
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I accept that. And, my Lord,
do you mind if I sit down?

297
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I suffer from vertigo.

298
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Please.

299
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Let us look at tab number nine.

300
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We can see top
line... EARS RINGING

301
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...that the debrief begins
on the 1st of August.

302
00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,077
We can see that it's
followed the next day

303
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by a call which is
15 minutes long.

304
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That one is logged.

305
00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,877
Then, on the 28th of August,

306
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there's a nine-minute
call, which is not logged.

307
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Then, on the 1st of September,
Eaton suddenly changes his story.

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He says for the first time

309
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that he was at the
scene of the murder.

310
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Well, what are you suggesting?

311
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I'm suggesting that that may
not be a coincidence, Mr Cook.

312
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I suppose you're
going to deny it

313
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and say that it is
just a coincidence?

314
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You're going to deny that,
during these unlogged calls,

315
00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,557
you were feeding
Mr Eaton his story?

316
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And why would I do that?

317
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This case has been causing
the Metropolitan Police

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untold embarrassment
for over two decades.

319
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You were desperate
to nail someone.

320
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Of course, if you
think you have somebody

321
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who may be an eyewitness, you
embrace them with both arms.

322
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But you allowed this
dishonest, mentally ill man

323
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to run riot over
your investigation.

324
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Not only that, but
you manipulated him

325
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because he was
easily manipulable

326
00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,877
and because he was your one way
of bringing this case back to life

327
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and ending your career
with a real coup.

328
00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,960
Isn't that what has
gone on here, Mr Cook?

329
00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,960
You could not be further
from the truth, sir.

330
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SIGHS

331
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GLASSES CLINKING

332
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If you haven't
changed your ways.

333
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No chance. Thanks.

334
00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:07,878
Can you still win?

335
00:17:07,961 --> 00:17:10,877
Now that we've lost Gary
Eaton, the entire case...

336
00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,877
rests on two witnesses.

337
00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,877
Lindsey Wright, Jimmy
Cook's ex-girlfriend,

338
00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,480
who is basically a
fucking nightmare...

339
00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,877
...and James Ward, our
original supergrass,

340
00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,960
who's erratic at best.

341
00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,557
Nine days they kept
me on that stand.

342
00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,877
On day one, I really
thought I could win.

343
00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,960
Hoped. Yeah, I remember hope.

344
00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,877
I'm sorry they did that to you.

345
00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,960
You didn't deserve
it. Ah, maybe I did.

346
00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:49,800
So, what about you?
Can you, erm... win?

347
00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,877
Journalism isn't about
winning or losing.

348
00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,160
It's about the gradual
erosion of self-worth.

349
00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,877
Alan's given the story to
Panorama and The New York Times,

350
00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,877
and he's probably right because I
can't get anyone to go to court,

351
00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,877
which means we can't...

352
00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,717
I... I thought I had a way
to get to Mulcaire's notes.

353
00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,237
I thought I was finally
getting somewhere,

354
00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,960
but like everything I
try... BLOWS RASPBERRY

355
00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,077
What about Jonathan Rees?

356
00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,557
Surely he's just
as bad as Mulcaire?

357
00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:23,877
He's on trial, if
you haven't noticed.

358
00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,917
We raided his house
a few years ago.

359
00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,717
We found invoices on his desk.

360
00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,077
Rees to Alex Marunchak
and the News Of The World.

361
00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,877
Rees went to prison for conspiring
to pervert the course of justice,

362
00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,877
came out and went right
back into the employ

363
00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,960
of News Of The World, while
Andy Coulson was the editor.

364
00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,960
Under Coulson, News Of The World
employed a convicted criminal?

365
00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,877
Now, this fell
into your lap, OK?

366
00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,877
You can't quote me.

367
00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,877
You can't name Rees.

368
00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,960
But you can use
this to nail them.

369
00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:01,960
This could get you
in serious trouble.

370
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,960
I'm already in serious trouble.

371
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,877
ALAN: So, you're calling
Jonathan Rees "Mr A"?

372
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,877
I think it's my
best pseudonym yet.

373
00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,717
I can't name him till
after the Morgan trial.

374
00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,877
It's very tenuous, legally, even
to hide him under a pseudonym.

375
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,877
His lawyers can claim
contempt of court.

376
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,877
Coulson being in
government is a contempt.

377
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,877
It's a good story. Does it
stand up? My source is solid.

378
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,877
Jonathan Rees was imprisoned

379
00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,397
for conspiring to pervert
the course of justice.

380
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,877
And the News Of The
World rehired him.

381
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,280
After he was released from
prison while Coulson was editor.

382
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:45,878
Feels a good one.

383
00:19:45,961 --> 00:19:48,717
We'll need to give Coulson
right of reply. Ugh!

384
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,877
This is the most archaic
practice, giving people quotes,

385
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,877
in articles against them.

386
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,237
It's just free advertising
space for their lies.

387
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:56,877
I think it's necessary.

388
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,877
If we publish his right of reply,
we'll be misleading our readers.

389
00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:01,877
Whatever the fight, I
think it's better to stick

390
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,877
to established journalist
practice, don't you?

391
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,237
What do you know about
journalism? You're a lawyer. Nick.

392
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:07,877
Could you talk to her
with a bit more respect?

393
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,717
Oh, fuck off, with
respect. Nick. Nick.

394
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,877
Sorry. Sorry,
Rufus. Sorry, Gill.

395
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,877
I know how vital
you are to all this.

396
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,877
Just... busy time, busy head.

397
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,877
I'll... alert some people.

398
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,237
Go backstairs. I know
this will spread.

399
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,917
The other newspapers,
they can't ignore this.

400
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,877
It has to.

401
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:28,917
Gill?

402
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,877
If he gets the
quote from Coulson,

403
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,877
I think we can argue
public interest.

404
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,000
I agree. Thank
you. This is good.

405
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,877
Whoever your source
is, this is good.

406
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,960
BELL RINGS, WHIRRING

407
00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,960
PHONES RINGING, CHATTER

408
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,960
Would it surprise you to
know it didn't spread?

409
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,160
All the other newspapers
ignored the Mr A story.

410
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,480
You'll get them next time.

411
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,960
The trouble with
next time... SIGHS

412
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:27,878
The trouble with...

413
00:21:27,961 --> 00:21:29,877
ECHOING: You'll
get them next time.

414
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,877
I don't have a next time.

415
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,877
NICK'S MOTHER: You stupid child.

416
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,877
Nicholas! Nicholas, don't
be dramatic, Nicholas.

417
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,877
Let's get a washcloth
for that blood, shall we?

418
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,877
I don't have a next time.

419
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,960
MOBILE BUZZING

420
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:52,917
Er, Nick Davies.

421
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,877
Nick. It's Jo Becker.

422
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,877
'New York Times.' Oh. Yeah, hi.

423
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,877
'Is now not a good time?' No,
it's fine. How can I help?

424
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:03,878
We're going to publish.

425
00:22:03,961 --> 00:22:05,877
Great. What?

426
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,877
Sean Hoare is going
on the record.

427
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,237
'He's a genuine insider.'

428
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,397
Oh, more than that,
he's Coulson's friend.

429
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,557
They worked the
celebrity Bizarre column

430
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:15,877
that Coulson made his name on.

431
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,877
'What did he say?' Well, he
talked about Coulson a lot.

432
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,877
I had a good relationship
with him, as it goes.

433
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,717
Yeah, I could do
the fuck I wanted

434
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,960
as long as I came in
with a good story.

435
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,960
The brief was...

436
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,877
..."I don't give a fuck."

437
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,877
The News Of The World meetings
sound more fun than Guardian ones.

438
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,877
'You're not wrong.
But I asked him...'

439
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,877
Did he know what's
going on? Coulson?

440
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,877
The New York Times over
here on this, are they?

441
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,717
Yes. Oh. Why?

442
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,877
We want to investigate whether
an ethical line has been crossed.

443
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,877
Fuck me, you sound
like The Guardian.

444
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,877
You don't think The
Guardian are valid?

445
00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,877
I think The Guardian are
being beautiful beings,

446
00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:02,877
gazing down from their mighty
high horses, the pious fucks.

447
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,960
You know, but the thing about
you, you see, is that you...

448
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,877
You're foreign, so I like you.

449
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,960
CHUCKLES

450
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,877
I, personally... played voicemail
recordings to the bastard

451
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,877
when we worked together
at The Sun and the Screws.

452
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,877
You played recordings
to Coulson?

453
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,960
Sean...

454
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:31,960
...is that on the record?

455
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:40,960
SNIFFS

456
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,877
I want a New York
Mets top. I'm sorry?

457
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,960
I want a New York Mets top,
and then it's on the record.

458
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:54,960
OK.

459
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:57,878
Yeah?

460
00:23:57,961 --> 00:24:00,640
Sure. Great.

461
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,397
So what do you say we
go completely crazy

462
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,960
and have another orange juice?

463
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,160
Thank you.

464
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,557
This is very good.

465
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,077
I don't think they made
clear the link with Coulson.

466
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,877
It's good journalism,
but it's...

467
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,877
I love an intimate party, Nick,
but it is nice, don't you think,

468
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,717
to have at least some other
people who want to be there?

469
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,877
This is The New York Times.

470
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,877
It's going to be a lot
harder to fight us both.

471
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,960
This matters.

472
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,800
Yeah.

473
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,917
It was an extremely
good piece. It...

474
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,877
The way it...

475
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,877
It was extremely good.
And what happened next...

476
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,877
Alan was right - it
made everybody braver.

477
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,877
Celebrities began to look up.

478
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,877
For instance, Charlotte Harris began
to get somewhere with a client -

479
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:06,878
football agent Sky Andrew.

480
00:25:06,961 --> 00:25:09,397
They offered him £200,000 a year

481
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,877
and £1.2 million in free advertising
for a charity if he'd drop his case.

482
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,077
And? He said no.

483
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,877
People were willing to
fight. Most unusual people.

484
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,877
Hi. Nick Davies. Max Mosley.
I'm a fan of your work.

485
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,877
Then Max Mosley did
something extraordinary.

486
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,877
To be clear, we didn't
meet at The Guardian,

487
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:28,878
but this setting will do.

488
00:25:28,961 --> 00:25:30,877
I'd like to back, financially,

489
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,877
anyone wishing to bring a case
against the News Of The World,

490
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,877
indemnify them against
costs and damages.

491
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,960
Max, that could be millions.

492
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,877
I'm guessing you saw it.

493
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,480
Nazi sex orgy, photos of me.

494
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,877
It was not Nazi.

495
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,960
It was consenting,
but they didn't care.

496
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,960
I sued, I got a small
reward. I survived.

497
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,960
My son... didn't.

498
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,960
A heroin overdose, one year
after the story was published.

499
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:07,960
I'm sorry.

500
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,960
They can attack us. But when
our children are damaged...

501
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,877
But are you sure that this is what
you want to spend your fortune on?

502
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:19,878
CHUCKLES SOFTLY

503
00:26:19,961 --> 00:26:23,717
You underestimate my
fortune, Mr Davies.

504
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:24,960
And my anger.

505
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,877
The world started
to unfurl before us.

506
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,877
The strategy started to work.

507
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,877
Allies were...

508
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,397
well, not exactly everywhere
but gathering. And then...

509
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,077
The game changed. Mark
Thompson got in touch.

510
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,717
His client, AZP...
Do you remember AZP?

511
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,397
Well, apparently she loved
The New York Times piece

512
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,877
and the Mr A story,
and she wanted to meet.

513
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,877
Oh, and AZP, she is...

514
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,877
Sienna Miller, meet Nick
Davies. Pleasure to meet you.

515
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,877
Yes - actor, tabloid magnet.

516
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,877
Our ace card.

517
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,877
He knows it's coming.

518
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,077
Everyone's been
whispering to her to stop.

519
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,237
All of Hollywood.

520
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,877
Some roles are being withdrawn.

521
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,877
Others are being promised
if she just lets it go.

522
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,878
But you've decided
to keep fighting.

523
00:27:14,961 --> 00:27:18,237
They've also said,
they've told me

524
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,877
that there is more
muck on me they'd use.

525
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,877
CHUCKLES: Which is, I
mean, probably true,

526
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,877
but, I mean, how can they
print anything worse?

527
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,960
All the papers are after her.

528
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,480
Can I ask... Sienna,
can I ask what happened?

529
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,877
I... I can't go into
the... the details.

530
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,877
And I really don't want
to pry, but what...

531
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,717
What were they digging for?

532
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,320
Erm...

533
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,717
SHE LAUGHS

534
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,717
Seemingly, erm, well, anything
about me is, er, interesting.

535
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,877
The restaurants I
go to, what I wear,

536
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,877
people... people I meet.

537
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:04,557
But it seems their attention
was particularly grabbed

538
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,640
by, I, erm...

539
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,877
I got, er... BREATHES HEAVILY

540
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,960
I got pregnant, and,
erm, I had a decision...

541
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,877
...to make. You understand?

542
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,960
Mm. And...

543
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,877
Well, at that time, when you're...
when you're dealing with that,

544
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,877
you need people that you can trust,
and I didn't, I didn't trust anyone.

545
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,877
I thought that they were
all selling stories about me

546
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,320
because they knew everything.

547
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,877
And I couldn't work out
why. I couldn't work out why

548
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:44,877
anything I told my friends
or family was being leaked.

549
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,877
I thought, I mean, I... SIGHS

550
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,960
I started to, erm...

551
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:51,960
Yeah.

552
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,877
Mmm.

553
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,960
I, er...

554
00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:02,877
The number of people that I
trusted grew smaller and smaller

555
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,077
until there was
almost no-one at all.

556
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,877
I didn't know which way
was up. Not any more.

557
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,877
I drank too much, did
all the wrong things,

558
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,877
damaged my career,
damaged myself.

559
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,877
And they feasted on it.

560
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,877
Was this Mulcaire?

561
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,877
We don't know. We don't
know who was doing what.

562
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:22,917
All we know is
the results of it.

563
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,960
SHE SNIFFS The thing
that I was most, erm...

564
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,960
...sorry about
was that I, erm...

565
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,960
...I damaged my family.

566
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,320
Once it was all, erm...

567
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,960
INHALES DEEPLY, EXHALES

568
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,000
I only, basically, told my mum.

569
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,877
SIGHS

570
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,960
And they still found out. SNIFFS

571
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,960
And they published, and
I thought it was her.

572
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,480
SHAKILY: And the things
I said to her, you know?

573
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,960
SHE INHALES Must
have been horrible.

574
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,557
But I'm a celebrity. CHUCKLES

575
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,877
I chose all this.
It's not their fault.

576
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,960
It's in the public
interest. Hmm?

577
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,960
We're taking this
all the way. Good.

578
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,960
Mm-hm. Thank you.

579
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,877
DAVE: 'We're gonna
have to disclose this.'

580
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,877
I'm afraid there's no choice.

581
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,877
But I ain't done nothing.

582
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,877
Lindsey, your entire
search history's here.

583
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,877
We can see what you searched
and when you searched it.

584
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,877
But... I'm allowed to
be curious, ain't I?

585
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,877
Not against the law
to be curious. Look...

586
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,960
you're accusing Jimmy Cook
of over 30 separate murders.

587
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,917
And each time you change a statement
and say you remember a new murder,

588
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,877
it comes off the back
of an internet search

589
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,877
on how to commit that
particular type of murder.

590
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,877
Disclosing this means
that we can no longer

591
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,960
put you forward as
a witness of truth.

592
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,877
And I'm afraid, Lindsey...

593
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,877
I'm afraid we lost
the only other witness

594
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,877
who had evidence on Jimmy.

595
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,960
So your statement...

596
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,877
...that was all the
prosecution had to go on.

597
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:20,917
GAVEL HAMMERS

598
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,237
JUDGE: 'James Frederick
William Cook.'

599
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,960
No. 'Stand, please.'

600
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,877
I direct a verdict of not guilty

601
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,160
in respect of count one,
and you are now free to go.

602
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,877
'No, no, no, no, no,
no. What if he...?

603
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,557
'Oh, shit!'

604
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,877
I'm now number one
target. You know that?

605
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,960
How could you let this happen?

606
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,000
How could you let this happen?!

607
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,960
SHE SOBS

608
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,877
TEACUP CLINKING You take sugar?

609
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,877
GLEN: Er, just half.

610
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,960
And a splash of milk. Thanks.

611
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,000
TEA POURING

612
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,960
Erm, how long you been here,
then? Moved in a while ago.

613
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,960
I know, I just haven't
time to... SIGHS

614
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,960
There's a sofa coming. Thanks.

615
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,640
Yeah, I was actually pretty
shocked when I heard.

616
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,000
You and Jacqui always
seemed... solid.

617
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:37,960
Aye.

618
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,877
Heard you and Vicky got
married. That's great.

619
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,877
We invited you to the
wedding, but you never RSVP'd.

620
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,160
Did you?

621
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,960
I'm so... I'm so sorry.
It's just that...

622
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,877
I've been... I've been
busy, frantic. Work, life.

623
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,878
I know.

624
00:32:56,961 --> 00:32:59,397
It's what you get for having
friends who are coppers.

625
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,237
They disappear on
you for years on end.

626
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,960
So we're still pals?

627
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,877
But that's not why you're
here. You want something.

628
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,877
Alan Rusbridger and The
Guardian have been in touch

629
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,237
with us at Panorama.

630
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,877
It's the hacking stuff.

631
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,877
But there's also this story on
Jonathan Rees they've been pushing.

632
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,960
I know you've been on Daniel Morgan,
so... Rees is your bag, right?

633
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,877
Look, I'm sorry. We can
talk about other things.

634
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,077
I'll take my BBC hat off.

635
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,320
Genuinely, I wanted to see you.

636
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,000
How are you, you know...

637
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:40,960
...coping?

638
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,640
Well, it's strange.

639
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,960
House without
kids, pretty quiet.

640
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,960
Think I need to get better
at filling in the time.

641
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:02,877
NICK: We should be aiming
for a coalition of lawyers.

642
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,237
Coalition? Are we
in government now?

643
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,877
I have other friendly lawyers
with very high-profile clients.

644
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,877
I do know who you're...
With the Sky Andrew case

645
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,877
progressing under your watch, he's
still not accepting their terms.

646
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,877
No. Max Mosley has promised
to financially back

647
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,237
any client who comes forward.

648
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,877
Surely, we can encourage
them all to come forward now.

649
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,397
Nick, breathe. OK?

650
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,877
You are constantly swaying
between utter despair and this.

651
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,877
It's exhausting.
The law takes time.

652
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,717
We are building something.
Let it fucking build.

653
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,877
Stop worrying about The New York
Times getting there before you.

654
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,557
This is your case. Not worried
about The New York Times.

655
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,877
I don't have Sienna
Miller as a client.

656
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,877
You don't have Sean
Hoare in your pocket.

657
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,877
But we are all working together.

658
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,440
Stop doing that thing
with your hands.

659
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,077
I have another one for
you, a former politician.

660
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,237
Apparently, he's had sight
of Mulcaire's notebook.

661
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,877
Now, I've been reluctant
to share him because...

662
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,877
well, I think he's tricky.

663
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,960
But you want everyone, so...

664
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:02,877
What I'm interested in is
in Mulcaire's notebooks.

665
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,877
I have no interest
in what it shows,

666
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,917
but there'll be a name at
the top corner of the notes,

667
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,877
which is the name of someone
at the News Of The World.

668
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,877
Have you read what The
Guardian has written

669
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,877
about me, about this case?

670
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,877
Tommy Sheridan, a defamation
case which became a perjury case.

671
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,877
Process of disclosure on which
allowed him access to Mulcaire

672
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:22,960
and to his paperwork.

673
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,877
And he's right - The Guardian
haven't been kind about him.

674
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,877
What I'm looking to
do is to build a case

675
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,877
against Andy Coulson and the
culture at the News Of The World,

676
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,877
that the hacking was
endemic... Yes, there's a name.

677
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,877
No, you can't see it. And
you certainly can't print it.

678
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,877
I don't trust journalists,
Nick. Not any more.

679
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,877
OK, the name is important

680
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,877
because it undermines the
"one rogue reporter" argument

681
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:49,878
which Coulson keeps
hiding behind.

682
00:35:49,961 --> 00:35:53,717
So the more editors and senior
journalists we can implicate,

683
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:54,877
the more we show them lying.

684
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,960
EXHALES

685
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:03,960
Greg Miskiw.

686
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,960
Greg Miskiw. Are you sure?

687
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,877
I didn't tell you, and
you're not printing it.

688
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,397
Greg Miskiw was news editor
and later assistant editor.

689
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,877
He's retired now, but he
reported directly to Coulson.

690
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,877
I know who Greg Miskiw is, Nick. Do
you know how significant this is?

691
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,480
This could blow the lid off.
This has to be off the record.

692
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,877
Do I understand that you're
representing yourself in court?

693
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,320
Yes. What if I was to help you?

694
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:36,878
Go on.

695
00:36:36,961 --> 00:36:38,877
There's very little
I know a lot about,

696
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:39,878
but this issue is one of them.

697
00:36:39,961 --> 00:36:42,917
I can feed you questions, help with
your research, all for nothing.

698
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,877
For the name in the notebook?
That name is dynamite.

699
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,877
Greg Miskiw is dynamite.

700
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,077
And you can print it because
it's been stated in court.

701
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,960
And I have an idea who you
should call as a witness.

702
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:54,878
Go on.

703
00:36:54,961 --> 00:36:56,877
Andy Coulson.

704
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,877
DOOR SLAMS

705
00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:01,320
You're a traitor.

706
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,877
Start by asking him
about Greg Miskiw.

707
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,077
He'll deny any knowledge.

708
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,877
Mr Coulson...

709
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,717
...these are the written notes

710
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,877
of the former News Of The
World employee Glenn Mulcaire.

711
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,877
Contractor. Not employee.

712
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,877
Mr Coulson, do you
recognise the name

713
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,877
at the top left-hand
corner of the page?

714
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,717
It says "Greg".

715
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:23,960
This is the big one.

716
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,877
Do you think that name refers

717
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,877
to the former assistant
editor, Greg Miskiw?

718
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,877
No. Not to my knowledge, no.

719
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,877
Do you have any knowledge of Greg
Miskiw ordering Glenn Mulcaire

720
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,877
to hack Tommy Sheridan's phone?

721
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,877
Are you telling me
that you never ordered,

722
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,077
or were unaware of
Greg Miskiw ordering,

723
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,877
Mr Mulcaire to tap my phone?

724
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,877
No. I had absolutely no
knowledge of it, and I...

725
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,877
I-I certainly didn't instruct
anyone to do anything of the type.

726
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,877
Interesting because Sean
Hoare, in The New York Times...

727
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,877
...stated that he played
you hacked voice mails.

728
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,557
I remain confident
there is no evidence

729
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,877
to support Mr Hoare's
accusations. That's my position.

730
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,877
Do you have any
comment on why Mr Hoare

731
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,878
would have made
those accusations?

732
00:38:06,961 --> 00:38:08,877
You should ask Mr Hoare.

733
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,877
How bad was the culture
at your newspaper?

734
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,877
I don't accept there
was any culture

735
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:14,917
of phone hacking at
the News of The World.

736
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,917
There was one unfortunate
case involving Clive Goodman,

737
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,960
and no-one was more
sorry about it than me.

738
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,960
And that's why I resigned.

739
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:27,960
MARK: 'Tommy Sheridan?'

740
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,877
We got Miskiw's name out there.

741
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,877
It wasn't enough, but we're
rattling Coulson's cage.

742
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,877
Well, let's see if this
sends him over the edge.

743
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,877
This was lodged in the
High Court this morning.

744
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,877
Worth mentioning, in real life,
he made me go to the courthouse

745
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,917
to pick this up myself.

746
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,717
Possibly not worth mentioning.

747
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,877
Mulcaire blagged her phone
number. I changed my phone twice,

748
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,877
and somehow they always got it.

749
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,877
It wasn't just her phone
they were inside of.

750
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,877
They targeted Sienna's
mother, her boyfriend,

751
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,877
his assistant, her publicist.

752
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,877
We analysed my itemised phone
bills, and then we used them

753
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,237
to force the police to hand
over calls made by Mulcaire.

754
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,877
The police were sitting on this
information for four years,

755
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:08,878
I'll remind you.

756
00:39:08,961 --> 00:39:11,877
John Yates, four years.

757
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,877
And then we linked them to
the News Of The World stories.

758
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,877
There was a name that appeared in
the top corner of Glenn's notes.

759
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,877
A name we haven't had before?

760
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,960
A name that could change
everything. Tell me the name!

761
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,877
Ian Edmondson. Ian Edmondson?

762
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:31,878
He reported directly to Coulson.

763
00:39:31,961 --> 00:39:33,877
Ian Edmondson is the
current news editor

764
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,960
of the News Of The World.

765
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,160
MARIACHI BAND PLAYS

766
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,320
MUSIC CONTINUES

767
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,160
Just heard. Good work, Nick.

768
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,640
DOOR SLAMS, MUSIC STOPS

769
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,960
MUSIC CONTINUES

770
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,960
MUSIC STOPS, MOBILE BUZZES

771
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:33,878
Sheridan?

772
00:40:33,961 --> 00:40:36,557
SHERIDAN: 'Oh, Nick, they
couldn't get through to you,

773
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,877
'so, well, I don't know how
hard...' Is it the kids?

774
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,557
'No. No, no. Erm...

775
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,877
'It's about your father.

776
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,960
EXHALES: 'God, I'm
so sorry, Nick.'

777
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,960
MOBILE BUZZES

778
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,397
Yeah, Graham?

779
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,877
'We found two crates
in an old DPS office.

780
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,557
'A cleaner found them.

781
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,960
'It's old evidence
on James Ward.'

782
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,877
But we told the judge we
declared everything on Ward.

783
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,960
'I'm sorry.'

784
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:30,960
How bad is it?

785
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,800
Now this is the end, right?

786
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,800
Do you want the official
answer or the honest answer?

787
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:40,960
We don't survive this.

788
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,640
I don't understand.

789
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,877
How can they accuse us
of withholding evidence

790
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,557
when you didn't even know
that the crates existed?

791
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,877
It was a disused
police building.

792
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,960
Nothing to do with
your team, right? Yeah.

793
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,440
The office was locked for years.
Nobody knew anything about it.

794
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:03,917
But even if we
could make the case

795
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,800
that we weren't
withholding the files...

796
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,877
...the contents...

797
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,877
the details about James Ward

798
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,077
that he didn't originally
disclose to us...

799
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,397
If we'd have had
the files earlier,

800
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,877
we may have been able
to deal with it, but...

801
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,160
all of it together, it's...

802
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,640
Years and years
and years - gone.

803
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,960
All because someone left
some files in the wrong room.

804
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,960
It's like everyone forgot.

805
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,960
All the people in their court.

806
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,480
This was supposed
to be about Daniel.

807
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,960
MUSIC: 'The Lark Ascending'
by Vaughan Williams

808
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,000
Hi. SOFT CHATTER

809
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,237
You OK? Yeah.

810
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,877
I really loved him.

811
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,000
I know. He was everything.

812
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,960
It was complicated,
but I really loved him.

813
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,717
PRIEST: "The Lord is my
Shepherd. I shall not want."

814
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,397
"He makes me lie down
in green pastures,"

815
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,877
"He leads me beside
still waters."

816
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,877
"He restores my soul,"

817
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,877
"He leads me in right
paths for His name's sake."

818
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,917
"Even though I walk through
the darkest valley,"

819
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,877
"I fear no evil,"

820
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,800
"for You are with me, Your rod
and Your staff, they comfort me."

821
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,960
"You prepare a table before me
in the presence of my enemies."

822
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,877
"Surely goodness and
mercy shall follow me"

823
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,877
"all the days of my life,"

824
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,960
"and I shall dwell in the house
of the Lord my whole life long."

825
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:16,960
Hi.

826
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,877
On the 14th of January, 2011,
Rebekah Brooks asked her secretary

827
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,877
to find somewhere discreet
for her to meet Andy Coulson.

828
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,877
She did so the next day, at 7.45am,
at the Halkin Hotel in Belgravia.

829
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,877
We don't know what Brooks said
to Coulson during that meeting,

830
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,877
but we do know that on
the 21st of January,

831
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,960
Andy Coulson resigned.

832
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,877
He said, "Unfortunately,
continued coverage of events"

833
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,237
"connected to my old job..."

834
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,877
...at the News Of The World

835
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,877
has made it difficult for me to
give the 110% needed in this role.

836
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,640
I stand by what I said
about those events.

837
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,877
But when a spokesman
needs a spokesman,

838
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,960
it's time to move on. Thank you.

839
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,640
Thank you.

840
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,877
This is the end of a long,

841
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:24,237
and as I am sure everyone associated
with this case will agree,

842
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,877
exhausting road.

843
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,877
In all the years that
I have been a judge,

844
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,877
I have never come across a case

845
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,877
in which there have
been so many issues

846
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,877
or such complex
issues to be resolved

847
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,077
before a trial could
even get underway.

848
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:44,557
The family will inevitably be
disappointed by the outcome.

849
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,917
But they, I think,
should be commended

850
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,480
on the dignity with which they
have faced these proceedings.

851
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,877
Mr Rees, Mr Fillery,

852
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,960
Mr Glenn Vian, Mr Garry
Vian, please stand.

853
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,877
You are free to go.
SIGHING IN RELIEF

854
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,877
Verdicts of not guilty
have been entered

855
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,877
in all of your cases.

856
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,717
SOFT CHATTER

857
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,960
Thank you, all.

858
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,960
Court rise.

859
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:30,960
Your dad. Yeah.

860
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,960
He was a nice man.
You didn't know him.

861
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:38,960
You made him sound nice.

862
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,960
GULPS And...

863
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,877
...to Andy Coulson.

864
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,960
May he disappear
and never come back.

865
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,800
I may as well tell you, we're
reporting it... tomorrow.

866
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:03,077
Murdoch's going for
full control of BSkyB.

867
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,917
I did hear it was possible.

868
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,877
If he gets that, he'll be able to
leverage a serious amount of debt.

869
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,960
Buy more, buy bigger.

870
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,237
We're talking world domination.

871
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:18,960
Why are you telling me this?

872
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:22,878
To remind you it's not over.

873
00:47:22,961 --> 00:47:27,237
HALTINGLY: Remind me that
they cut Coulson loose

874
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,877
to save them their
BSkyB business.

875
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,877
It's... It's all a false
victory. Not false at all.

876
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,960
Dissection is a slow
process. We tackle them...

877
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,960
...one limb at a time, and
eventually they run out of limbs.

878
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,960
Do they?

879
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,917
I'm tired, Alan.

880
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,397
I wanna go home. Agreed.

881
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,877
We rest, we lick our
wounds, we take stock.

882
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,960
No, I don't...

883
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,077
I... I don't think...
I think, on this story,

884
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,877
I think you need to find
someone to take over.

885
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,877
Sometimes you need
to know when to stop.

886
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:10,960
SNIFFS

887
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,960
It's time to stop.
I need to stop.

888
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,320
Sorry.

889
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,960
EARS RINGING

890
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,480
KNOCKING ON DOOR, GASPS

891
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,877
And I thought a bit of
fresh air might be in order.

892
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,877
No, I'm fine. You're not.

893
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,877
I'm all right.

894
00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:01,960
No, you're not, mate.

895
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,077
There's someone I
want you to meet.

896
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,640
He helped me. I think
he can help you.

897
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,160
Get showered, get dressed.
Not leaving till you do it.

898
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,800
I'm serious.

899
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,960
OK.

900
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,960
MUFFLED VOICES

901
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,877
Glen.

902
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,077
David Cook, Gordon Brown.
Gordon Brown, David Cook.

903
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:01,877
I know a lot about
you, DCS Cook.

904
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,877
I appreciate you
coming all this way.

905
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,877
It's no problem.

906
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,877
I'm interested in hearing more
about what's happened to you.

907
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,960
I, er... I think I
might be able to help.

908
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,960
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